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Studies meditation under Uddaka Rāmaputta

Attested across multiple schools

The Bodhisatta next goes to study under the ascetic . Uddaka explains to him “the sphere of neither perception nor non-perception” (a meditative state deeper than the sphere of nothingness), attained by his father Rāma, and the Bodhisatta attains it himself. Uddaka holds the Bodhisatta in the highest esteem. Judging that this method likewise does not lead to final liberation, the Bodhisatta leaves. The texts of every major school record this event.

Different Accounts

Who had attained the state: Majjhima Nikāya 26 of the Southern tradition and the Chinese Madhyama Āgama say it was Uddaka's father Rāma who had attained it, and that Uddaka himself had not; the Chinese Dharmaguptaka Vinaya says that after the teacher's death Yutoulanzi (that is, Uddaka) taught the disciples; the Chinese Mūlasarvāstivāda Vinaya says this ascetic had attained it himself.

More differences between accounts (2)

How the Bodhisatta was treated: Majjhima Nikāya 26 of the Southern tradition says he was invited to take the teacher's seat; the Chinese Mūlasarvāstivāda Vinaya says he was invited to stay and teach the disciples together with Uddaka.

The name is rendered in different ways: also Yutoulanzi, Yutoulanfu and Youlanfu, among others; the Chinese Mūlasarvāstivāda Vinaya translates it by its meaning as “the Otter Seer” and notes that the old rendering “Yutoulan” is wrong.

Dating

The Buddha between twenty-nine and thirty-five, after his study under Āḷāra and before the austerities; the canonical texts say only that he attained the state “before long”. Inferred from the sequence of events; the year is uncertain.

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How Reliability Is Assessed

Recorded by three schools: the Pali canon of the Southern tradition, the Chinese Dharmaguptaka Vinaya (Sifen lü) and the Chinese Madhyama Āgama. Attested across multiple schools.

Dating Evidence and Precision

Inferred from the sequence of events (neither the canonical texts nor the commentaries give the time; the year is worked out from the order of this event and those around it). Time precision: year uncertain.

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Source text

日期怎麼讀

成道第幾年
從佛陀成道開始,每經過一次雨季安居算一年,每一年算到安居結束為止;所有年歲一律依二十九歲出家、三十五歲成道推算。
年份依據
區分經文自己明記、後世註解書記載、先後順序推定及年歲換算。
時間精確度
分別說明確定到日、月、年,或只能放入某幾年之間。
可信度
多派共傳、兩派記載、單派記載與後世補述,表達記載的共傳範圍;與時間及位置是否確定分開閱讀。